Hartvigsen:"I was only trying to help you. I have had no intention to destroy the watermotor project." Nov. 24, 10

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From: Joseph Hartvigsen
To: davis ron
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 11:10:48 PM
Subject: Re: You have destroyed our Watermotor project with claims and accusation that you cannot prove.

Ron, answer me this, if I was trying to destroy the watermotor project why did I offer to pay the $2 per spoon to Ingella? Why did I offer to by castings from you so you could pay Ingella? Why did I send you several hundred greenspoons which you never acknowledged receiving? Why did I give you hub parts, etc.? Poorly fitting as they were, they were the best I had at the time. I was only trying to help you. I have had no intention to destroy the watermotor project. But, when your aliases (I'm not sure which if any is really you) posted accusations to the group I felt compelled to state what I believe to be true. And, I did state what I learned to be true earlier this year even when it was not in my favor about copyright of functional devices.

Hartvigsen: "That turned me from being a friend to being an enemy". Nov. 19, 10

Fri, November 19, 2010 1:52:00 PM
Re: Something to Investigate? Please see this.
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To: davis ron
Ron,
I am not head of anything. I don't have anything to do with Bechtel. The only time I've met their people visited their office in San Francisco was in the fall of 1981 when I was a senior in college on our ChE senior class trip. I can assure you they paid no attention to me. We also visited IBM and Exxon and a paper company. I've never heard of the Bolivian water issue from anyone but you. The INL is run by the Battelle Energy Alliance which does not include Bechtel as far as I can tell. Maybe they were involved before, but not in the time I've worked with the INL.

I was and am still principal investigator for hydrogen production from high temperature electrolysis as an efficient way to store energy. Whether it comes from nuclear, wind, solar or hydro makes no difference to the process. It was first funded from renewable energy within DOE, then funding moved to nuclear energy, and now it appears to be shifting back to renewable energy support. I think nuclear energy is an important part of our energy plan along with renewables if we are to effectively deal with CO2 levels and fossil fuel declines.

All the money in the world? You are totally delusional. I drive an old car and live in a modest house in a neighborhood with school teachers and truck drivers. If I was starting a war on your watermotor why did I offer to buy spoons from you and then offer to just pay the $2 on your behalf? If I was starting a war on you why would I drop it until you made fictitious postings to the group? The answer is clear in your message. You are a leftist political ideologue. I didn't share your anti-Bush, anti-US, anti-war on terror views. That turned me from being a friend to being an enemy. By the way, past President George W Bush is in town signing his Decision Points memoir today. Do you want me to run out and get you an autographed copy? Which of your names should I have President Bush use in the inscription? Ron, or is it Otto Rike, or K. D. Lee or Poco Baya or Abuelo Che maybe? You are the most relentless liar I've ever run across. You even lie to yourself and won't face the truth.

Joe

From: davis ron
To: h-n-h7@msn.com; joe@h-hydro.com; jjh@ceramatec.com
Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 10:07:06 AM
Subject: Joe, Something to Investigate? Please see this.



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From: davis ron
To: pstack@sltrib.com
Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 12:59:20 PM
Subject: Peggy: Something to Investigate? Please see this.



Hello Peggy,

This might be of interest to an investigative reporter.

A group of right wing engineers started a war against our Watermotor aid project (watermotor.net) here in Bolivia when my wife and I publicly opposed Bush's wars on Afghanistan and later on Iraq.
The individual leading this was Joseph Hartvigsen, the head of a nuclear energy program at the Bechtel built INEEL nuclear facility in Idaho.
His company, Ceramatec, is owned by J.K.Coors.
We are members of a group here in Bolivia which supported the nationalization of the illegally acquired Cochabamba water system by Bechtel. This was, I believe the first defeat for a multinational in the Globalization scheme.
We also helped organize a demonstration to request that the former president Goni be returned to face human rights charges.
Some years ago (1983) I organized a protest against George Schultz and Caspar Weinberger, both from Bechtel, who were running the war against Nicaragua, at the Bohemian Club in 1983.

For five years I have been prevented by the list owner, Wim Klunne, from replying to the statements and accusations placed on the Yahoo microhydro group site (microhydropower.net).
Please see:
http://watermotorstory.blogspot.com/2010/11/hartvigsen-began-his-war-
on-watermotor.html

As intended, after five straight years these people have pretty much destroyed our rural microhydro aid project.

Any ideas? They have all the money in the world and are relentless liars.

Ron Davis
Diane Bellomy
La Paz, Bolivia
artesaniasorata.com
watermotor.net
watermotorturbine on Youtube