Swedish Patent Office:"The main principle is that the one who claims that he has a protection has to prove it." Feb. 3, 2006

SV: Question from Bolivia--Swedish Turgo Design Rights, Mr. Bo Hallgren
Friday, February 3, 2006 10:53 AM
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"Hallgren Bo"
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Dear Ron Davis,

Thank you for your email.

The main principle is that the one who claims that he has a protection has to prove it.
This means if there is a Patent or Design protection in the country where you produce or sell your product the owner of the right has to provide you with the registration number of his rights.

Copyright is, as you might know, normally not registered but it is rarely the case that technical equipment is protected by copyright.

I suggest that you consult an expertienced lawyer in this field.

Best regards / Bo Hallgren



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Från: davis ron [mailto:watermotor@yahoo.com]
Skickat: den 2 februari 2006 22:46
Till: prv.patent@prv.se
Ämne: Question from Bolivia--Swedish Turgo Design Rights, Mr. Bo Hallgren


Feb. 2, 06

Dear Mr. Hallgren,

I am an appropriate technology inventor working
with the indigenous people of Bolivia for a number of
years.
We build small turbines with a patented (in
Bolivia) on/off power control switch which allows the
turbine to be used in place an electric motor to
directly drive machines. (See: watermotor.net)
I designed this turbine to use a turgo type turbine
wheel which was originally from Sweden.
After I designed this turbine and power control system
I was told that I should be paying royalties to a man
in Sweden to use this turgo design because he owned
the "design rights". When I would write to this man in Sweden
to ask about his design rights he would not
reply--until recently.
This is an important matter to us here in Bolivia
because we need to know if this man will sue us.
He has been demanding $32 U.S. for each turbine we
produce.
Also, this man tells people that we are cheating him
out of royalty money.
Recently I asked other members of the Internet
Microhydro group we both belong to if anyone knew
whether there actually was any sort of patent or
design right for this turgo turbine design. I then
received a e-mail from the Swedish man threatening me
with legal action if I used this design without his
consent. But he again failed to provide any
information about the design rights he says he has.
He now refuses to answer my e-mails.
My understanding is that even if "design rights"
actually exist, and he owns them, they would not apply
in this situation because my turbines are cast
aluminum or bronze, not plastic as his are. My turgo
wheel are also a different size as well.
Since he has threatened to sue me I must take this
seriously. He has far more resources than we do.
From his statement he is claiming that under Swedish
law he has the right to do this. If he does not have
the rights he claims to have then perhaps he may be
guilty of attempted fraud and extortion.
This has been going on for several years and it has
been damaging to our work here in Bolivia.
We need to know what to do in this case. I feel that
this man would not be trying to do this if we were not
in a poor country in South America.

Sincerely,
Ron Davis,
Campo Nuevo,
La Paz, Bolivia

watermotor@yahoo.com



Here is his last letter:

Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:01:20 +0100
To: "davis ron"
From: "Peter Ruyter" View
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Subject: Plasticspoons

Mr Davis
In my mail of 00-09-12 I have given you my opinion
about your way to
walk at the earth.
I can one moore time tell you: You are at the wrong
side of normal
sense. I am the owner of all produced plastic spoons,
red, white and
blue. If anybody without my autorization copie one of
these products
for using to make repeting production of these
products I am able to
lead these activities to court in any civilized
country around the
world as a case of illegal use of copyright.
If you understand these, we can negotiate about
royalty, copycost,
rental or what you ever like to call the right to do a copieactivites
with our property as masterform. Read carefully my
mail of 00-09-12.
You have allready done many professionals at the group
silent and
without willing to give know-how to the forum.
As I said, you have realy destroyed the possibility
for many poor
peoples to take part of developing works.

I enclose the old mails text, to refresh your memory:
>> Evening Ron and Diane.
>> I am a litlle bit sad, beqaus you not answering my
mails.
>> And when I understand you are using my work and
make copies of our
products.
>> Its very sad, and its a backslash for whole area
of intrest for
spending
>> time, love and monye for developing good working
hydroproducts with
small
>> economical frames.
>> I look for a good explanation and I hope to come
in mode for
spending moore
>> power to develop better things and moore power to
pore peoples.
>> Peter

I have also invited you to Sweden, to have a vistit at
the family
where we overtok the spoons. The widow, Ingela have
ben informed
about you and she is not impressed.

Hereby I invite you again, to visit us and meet Ingela
and look at
her former husbands work.
If you find anything incorrect against all information
you have got
in this case, I will pay all of your cost from the
minute you leave
your home untill the minute you arrive back.

If you understand, during this vsisit, all information
you have got
are correct, you have to give Joe Hartvigsen, my US
partner, an open
mail there you regret all of your activites.
--
All the best!
Peter Ruyter
(owner&responsible)
Cargo &Kraft Turbin Sverige AB
SE-739 92 SKINNSKATTEBERG
SWEDEN

Smallscale hydropower.
2 kW to 4000 kW
1 meter to 30 meter head.

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